Bad Beats at Tournaments

Hello,

I have actually two questions. But before that I want to share one of my most unforgettable experiences at the table first.

At the table, three of us were left for the pot. Well, I was the short stack however not by a lot. At some point, I saw As Kd and so I raised a not so big yet a not so small amount. Certain player called and then followed by the dealer. Flop came and brought 10c Ah Kh. Then I checked it to him while he opted to go all in. I then called and he showed he had Jh, 10s.

Later, the final two cards were 5h 8h.

The incident actually bothered me for some time though I knew then it was just a plain bad beat. It happened not only once but many times.

I thought it was just actually tough to play against maniacs and I’m still far from being a professional. However, I believe I am a smart player.

I’m thinking now if everything is all because of the way I play hands. I’m usually afraid to slow play and milk a pot. Similarly, I’m afraid to call all ins with great preflop cards. I don’t like playing too tight and skittish however I always get blindsided.

Now, I wanted to ask the following:

  1. Do you know any good way how to lessen the maniac effect on me? And do you think I’ll be much better at higher stakes tables?
  2. Was everything because of bad luck and for that I just have to continue playing without any trouble?

Thanks in advance!

Rolls
Rolls,

  1. Bad beats happen at low and high stakes alike. Remember, when you are a good player, bad beats will happen. It is a part of poker. The key is to not let it affect your play. Continue to make good decisions and the results will even out in the end.
  2. Exactly. This was just bad luck. Your play was fine. I would be happy if every time I called an all in my opponent had to catch runner runner to beat me. The majority of the time I am going to win. Remember, you will still lose a percentage of the time. That’s just a normal part of the game.

Trouble at Home Tournaments

About 6 months ago, I started playing holdem. I was usually into small home games with 6-8 people. Well, I’m glad as I almost had all the games down. Fair enough as in the event I didn’t win, I’m on the top 3 players.

But later on, I decided to try larger tourneys with 25 people. I had problems then and found things to be harder.

In one of the tourneys, starting blinds were 25/50 and was actually increasing every 17 minutes. By the way, there was 1600-2000 worth of chips each player.

I must admit now that I was confused then. I don’t know what to do.

Now, I’m curious if you have any advice on how to best play with a set-up like the one I mentioned. Back then, I don’t know how to deal with the blinds. Well, I’ve made the final table 3 out of the 5 times. Actually, the first two times I had no chips left so I was forced to go all in.

If I remember it right, the last time I was at the final table, I probably was in the middle in terms of chip stacks. Earlier part, short stack players kept going all-in while I was not having any hands. I can’t call bets then. At some point, I was dealt pocket queens and then called. Later on the flop, he caught an A. I thought of doubling up in case I go on then.

Any thoughts or advice? I know your the best person to help me to have some of the stuff get going.

Thanks!

Berner
Berner,

Early on in a larger tournament you need to play a little tighter, but as the blinds start to move up, you need to loosen up your requirements some and also start to steal blinds more. This should help you some. When at the final table and a lot of short stacks are constantly going all-in, you need to find spots either to steal blind, or if the short stacks are not a significant portion of your stack, try and gamble some to knock them out.

On Home Tournaments

Hello,

I’m planning to play holdem this coming weekend along with some close friends. We want to have fun and play all night, maybe for 5-6 hours. However, all of us don’t want to place big amount of money so we just all agreed that every participant will put in max of 40$.

I am actually expecting that because everyone wants to play for most of the evening, every player will more or less play tightly. Because of this, I’m now thinking to make the game a little more exciting. What if there’ll be 4 tournaments of 10$ each? And per tournament every player will be given about 800$ of chips? I believe that by doing this, the player will become more aggressive on the table. But on the better side, in the event he looses all his chips, there is still a big possibility that he will play more. What do you think?

By the way, your site is so great and helpful. Thanks a lot!

Barillari
Barillari,

You could also think about having a slow moving blind structure. Maybe with 30 minute levels and start the blinds low and then double them every half hour. This will allow for a lot more play. Your other option would be to have a Limit Holdem tournament. Fixed betting will all for some more action, but not so much where players will want to play like a rock all the time.

At an Online Tournament

Hello,

Just the other night, I joined an online tournament with $10 buy in. Earlier, I was moved to a new table with approximately $7500, this was in chips. By the way, I started with $5000 and the blinds back then were at $100/200 and were moving almost twice just within 30 minutes.

I believe the room was filled with loose players as well as tight players. At some point, I was able to have pocket fives in the BB. Few minutes and middle position player, player in cutoff, and on the button limped in. SB folded and I just checked. Flop came and brought 765 rainbow, thus giving me a set of 5s. I then placed $800 bet while middle position player folded. For approximately $2200 player in cutoff moved all-in. Player on button followed for approximately $7000, that eventually had me covered. I then called though there was much risk as I was hoping the board would be a pair.

Later, player in cutoff turned over J7 unsuited while player on button had 43 unsuited. Turn and river came but were blanks and so I was busted out.

Now as I look back, I know I’ve committed couple of mistakes. I believe I should have raised pre-flop. It was an honest mistake as I believe there are too many loose and strange calls in small buy-in tournaments that actually make effective reading and bluffing not possible. I also believe that I should have considered the idea that the button had the straight or at least had a hand that had me beat. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Gifford
Gifford,

I think you played correctly preflop. Pocket fives are really not a raising hand. Raising may have thinned the field, but you said the field was a mixed bag. A raise may or may not have worked. Pocket fives are limping hand, in the hopes to flop a set.

Beyond that, I think you played the hand find. You flopped a set, bet and then the cutoff moved all in. The button flopped a near miracle hand and moved all in. You were correct to call the bets. Also remember that you had 8 outs to still win after the flop.

I would have played it the same way and probably went broke too.

On Scary Flop

Hello,

Just the other day, I joined no-limit tourney. From 1183 players, we were eventually trimmed down to 5. Unfortunately, I can’t exactly recall the stack sizes. But somehow, I believe they were 700K 500K 325K 297K 112K.

On the other hand, blinds were 8 to16K, and moving up to 10 to 20K in roughly 5 minutes or so.

In middle position, I have pocket AAs. Well the table was fine then but only with many limping and folding and all. At some point, I raised two times the blind to get me heads up. However, it was folded to the big blind, who eventually opted to call. Flop came and was 10-10-9 rainbow. I then placed 40K as my bet however my opponent re-raised me in an instant to 80K. Thinking that I’ll be more or less the underdog, I called. Turn then came and was a blank. My opponent placed 45K as his bet into a pot of 232K and so I folded. Afterwards, he showed J-9 off suit.

Now, as I look back, I know I misplayed the hand. Somehow, I’ve stumbled on these stuff:

  1. I know for a fact that raising with AA is always a balance between narrowing the field down to a heads up situation and determining the kind of hand range you are up to. Badly, because I have given him the chance to call, he was then obliged to do so.
  2. Supposedly, I should have placed more bet on the flop to better specify the situation. On the flip side, I was more into re-raising.
  3. I realize I should have called the turn, though it was a value bet. Also, I should have considered the odds which was 6-1 then, it was already so good actually.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Jon Jablonski
Jon,

My thought is that if you are going to call on the flop, you would be better off raising to make him either commit or to push him off the hand. If on the turn you thought you were behind, folding to his be is the right move. If you called his all in and he had trip 10’s or a full house, then you 5% to win. You would not have odds. I would have put him all-in on the flop.

Want to Experience How It’s Like to be a Winner

Hello,

For a year now or so, I’ve been playing at NL Holdem tournaments. As a player, I’ve also had my fair share of some ups and downs.

Now, I’m just curious if there’s anything I need to finish 1st on a tournament of 500 or more players. Any idea? I have already experienced being on the 9th, 7th, & 5th places but not on the first two or three. Any help?

Another thing, I’m having trouble when I get extremely excited in case I got a hand like AK, AQ, AJ or 99, TT, JJ. I tend to be loose, most especially when I’m on my way to the final table. Please, any advice?

Thanks,
John Hart
John,

It sounds like you are making your share of final tables. That is good. On thing I would recommend is playing more single table sit n go’s to give yourself more final table experience. You may also want to play some 4 and 6 handed sit n go’s.

A-K, A-Q, and A-J are really just glorified drawing hands. If they hit, they can be strong, but don’t get too crazy with pushing them preflop. 9’s are hands that I would only play aggressively late. Otherwise, I hope to hit a set or flop a low board. Tens I would play a little more aggressive from middle and aggressively late. Jacks are good middle and late position hands.

If you are being loose and its working for you as you are headed to the final table, you may want to try and tighten up a bit at the final table. Your loose nature heading to the table will help your hands get paid off at the find. I would also try and see some flops cheaply at the final table and hope to flop lucky.

Straddling the Bet

Hi,

Several weeks ago, I played low limit for the first time. At the table, there was one player who was said to be “straddling the bet” by which actually appeared to me as a blind raise by the player to the left of the BB.

I don’t totally understand what “straddling the bet” means. Can you please explain it to me?

Thanks!

Doeddler
Doeddler,

“Straddling the bet” means that the player to the left of the big blind is putting in a blind raise equal to twice the big blind. This is done to make more action in a pot. Honestly, in a low limit game, this is a little silly, but it is quite common in higher stakes games.

You can think of it as a blind raise if you wish. It is really the same thing.

Wrong Winner

Hi,

At the card room the other night, the table got to heads up and both hand were turned face up. Quite surprising, the dealer called the hand wrongly and then had the card and mucked them out of a sudden. Afterwards, the floor person had the mucked cards back and revealed them. He then awarded the pot to the true winner.

Any comment?
Thanks!

Coble
Coble,

In a casino, cards speak. This means it is the dealer’s responsibility to award the pot to call the hand and award it to the correct winner. Since the dealer made a mistake, the floor person is responsible to correct the error. Proper procedure was followed in this instance.