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Using Other Players to Improve Your Game

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Poker is an individual game played amongst individuals. However, as you begin to improve your game, you will find that if you want to really improve, you need to work with other players to help improve your own game.

The first thing that a person may think of when one mentions getting someone else to help may be that they don’t want the other person to know how they play. While this can be a concern, a truly great poker player should always be modifying their game, so this should not be as big a concern.

The primary advantage to having someone help you with your game is getting another perspective on how to play the game or even specific scenarios. For example, we pretty much have a set idea of how to play a hand that is the nuts, but we may not have the same thoughts about playing a drawing hand against a loose-aggressive player. Also, there may be information that you can pass on to other players to help them improve.

Another advantage to having people help you with your game is that you make friends in the game and have a support system. This is vitally important when one goes through a down period in the game. Many people don’t understand what a poker player goes through. However, your friends that play know what you’re going through because they are going through the same exact thing.

The way that you go about having people help you varies. For example, the members of the famed “Mayfair Club” would get together after long sessions at the table and sit around either dinner or drinks and discuss the plays that they made. They exchanged ideas and improved each others games. You might recognize some of those players as Howard Lederer, Dan Harrington, Erik Seidel, and Steve Zolotow.

Other ways would be to sit around a table and go over specific scenarios with your friends. If you are an online player, another option for you may be to have your friends sit and watch you play and then critique your play. Whatever option you choose, it can only serve to improve your game.

So if you are looking for ways to improve your game, start talking to other players. Not only can their ideas help you improve, but the added thought you are giving to your game will help you to improve your game on the way to becoming a champion of poker.

Picking Your Spots to Double Up

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If you are going to be a champion poker player, you need to be able to pick the right spots to risk your tournament life and to double up. Let me give you an example of a situation in Tunica, MS that was key to keeping me in a major WSOP Circuit event.

Play was beginning to approach the end of the 300-600 with 25 ante Level in a NL Holdem tournament. I was in late position and looked down to A-9 suited. I had been waiting patiently for a while for a good hand to try and pick up some chips. I had 850 in chips and needed a pot.

I was intent to go all-in here and then something happened to stop me. Three people limped into the pot. With a hand such as A-9 suited, you really want to be the first player into the pot, especially if you are going all-in. The pot was 1,350 pre-flop before any players come in, so if I could have only one caller, this would be a good time to get lucky. However, odds were that I would face at least four, maybe five other players if the small blind came in.

I decided to wait. I folded my hand and the level completed. The next level was 400-800 with a 50 ante. I had 775 after the ante. The first hand, I was dealt A-6 offsuit. However, this time it was folded to me. I moved all-in and the only player that stayed in was the big blind that held 7-5. I was able to win the pot and was up to 2,500 in chips. A few hands later, I was able to double up again to a respectable stack and then was able to move up to over 12,000 in chips by the end of the level.

Granted, I should have never allowed my stack to get that short, but the point of this story is to point out how that making the right decisions can pay off at the poker table in shoving for your tournament life. Sometimes, just blindly shoving can leave you in a situation where it is next to impossible to win. Picking your spots will help you to stay alive and thrive in NL Holdem tournaments.

Trouble at Home Tournaments

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About 6 months ago, I started playing holdem. I was usually into small home games with 6-8 people. Well, I’m glad as I almost had all the games down. Fair enough as in the event I didn’t win, I’m on the top 3 players.

But later on, I decided to try larger tourneys with 25 people. I had problems then and found things to be harder.

In one of the tourneys, starting blinds were 25/50 and was actually increasing every 17 minutes. By the way, there was 1600-2000 worth of chips each player.

I must admit now that I was confused then. I don’t know what to do.

Now, I’m curious if you have any advice on how to best play with a set-up like the one I mentioned. Back then, I don’t know how to deal with the blinds. Well, I’ve made the final table 3 out of the 5 times. Actually, the first two times I had no chips left so I was forced to go all in.

If I remember it right, the last time I was at the final table, I probably was in the middle in terms of chip stacks. Earlier part, short stack players kept going all-in while I was not having any hands. I can’t call bets then. At some point, I was dealt pocket queens and then called. Later on the flop, he caught an A. I thought of doubling up in case I go on then.

Any thoughts or advice? I know your the best person to help me to have some of the stuff get going.

Thanks!

Berner
Berner,

Early on in a larger tournament you need to play a little tighter, but as the blinds start to move up, you need to loosen up your requirements some and also start to steal blinds more. This should help you some. When at the final table and a lot of short stacks are constantly going all-in, you need to find spots either to steal blind, or if the short stacks are not a significant portion of your stack, try and gamble some to knock them out.

How to Close the Deal?

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Hello,

For more than a month now, I’ve been playing holdem online. Just weeks ago, I decided to improve my skills as I already considered the game fun and exciting. I started to add more hours to my playing time and then make some adjustments with how I see my cards. I also stopped focusing on how other players play. Well, all my efforts eventually paid off. In a WPT tourney, I ended having the 7th place.

Luckily, I got then the chance to see your site. Thanks to you and your site as I was able to learn not only what the good cards are but also what the bad ones are. I was also able to learn how to play, when to play, so on and so forth.

Because of the many things I learned, in a $1 tourney just recently, I was the 2nd placer out of 1300 players who joined. And in a $5 tourney early this morning, I was in the 24th place out of 900, not so bad I believe.

Despite the achievements I got, I still have some questions to ask. One of the most intriguing to me actually is the one about closing the deal. How do you actually close the deal? In the two recent events where I got the 2nd and 24th place, I had high chip count later part. I tried to play loosely then and tried two bluffs as well. I’m thinking of posting and folding then but I’m not sure.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks!

Engelbert
Englebert,

In the later part of the tournament you need to punish the short stacks and force them to either play for all their chips or lay down. Don’t get into too many big confrontations with big stacks unless you have a strong hand. Otherwise, try and see flops cheaply and punish your opponents when you hit the board strong.

When you get to the last few players, open up your hand ranges a bit to try and take the win. Two big cards, any ace, any pair, and large suited cards are strong hands 4 handed through heads up. Otherwise, continue to play small pot poker and see cheap flops.

On Home Tournaments

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Hello,

I’m planning to play holdem this coming weekend along with some close friends. We want to have fun and play all night, maybe for 5-6 hours. However, all of us don’t want to place big amount of money so we just all agreed that every participant will put in max of 40$.

I am actually expecting that because everyone wants to play for most of the evening, every player will more or less play tightly. Because of this, I’m now thinking to make the game a little more exciting. What if there’ll be 4 tournaments of 10$ each? And per tournament every player will be given about 800$ of chips? I believe that by doing this, the player will become more aggressive on the table. But on the better side, in the event he looses all his chips, there is still a big possibility that he will play more. What do you think?

By the way, your site is so great and helpful. Thanks a lot!

Barillari
Barillari,

You could also think about having a slow moving blind structure. Maybe with 30 minute levels and start the blinds low and then double them every half hour. This will allow for a lot more play. Your other option would be to have a Limit Holdem tournament. Fixed betting will all for some more action, but not so much where players will want to play like a rock all the time.

Flipping Cards Over to Another Player

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Hello,

Me and some friends played holdem the other night. A dispute appeared because of a certain move.

If I could remember it right, after the flop of the river card, a bet was made. Then there was player 2 who paused for some time as he doesn’t know what to do next. Few minutes passed and he then took his cards and put them in the hand of another player to show off his strength. Consequently, he announced that he was apprehensive as he may lose to a higher full house or the like.

At some point, player 2 never had his cards back to him. Well, the cards were actually in front of the player who was not in for the pot anymore. The cards were faced down. Player 3 then intruded and asked what should happen next. I then explained that player 2 folded and so as player 3 therefore player 1 should win the pot.

Player 1 as a reaction then showed his hand to inform everyone he wasn’t bluffing ever since the game started. Player 2 after knowing what player 1 had said that he’d be betting, therefore we we jumped over him without any doubt.

Personally, I believe that in the event player 2 flipped his cards over to another player, he will be disqualified from the upcoming betting rounds as well as from taking home the winnings. Am I right?

Thanks!

Peter Chik
Peter,

You were mistaken. Player 2 showed his card to a player that is not in a hand. While this is an ethical violation, it is not one that will cause his hand to be dead. The hand should have been played out. Player 1 showing his hand does not kill the action either. Player 2 still has the option to bet if he so desires.

Also, the player should not be asking advice of other players. While this does not affect the hand he is in. He may receive a penalty for doing.

A simple way to alleviate this in the future would be to institute a house rule that players may not show their hand to anyone while the hand is still in play.

Showing and Seeing Hands

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Hello,

I would like to clarify some stuff.

  1. Is it true that you only have to show your hand to someone that has called or raised? I remember you once stated in one of your sections that specifically in holdem any player can see another player’s pocket cards once they’ve been mucked, but of course the requesting player has called or raised the last bet made.

  2. Yes, I remember you said that folded hand can only be seen by a player as long as he has called or raised the last bet made. However, I can remember vaguely as well that you stated that the player could see the hand as long as he called the river or even bet or raised it. Sorry, but I’m confused.

    Maybe, to make things clear, consider this:

    River was turned and eventually it was time to show. There were five players left. Player A placed a bet, player B folded, while player C haven’t acted as he was already out since the flop. Player D called and so as player E. Player A then revealed the winner. Players D and E have folded.

    Now, who gets the chance to take a look at the cards of player D? How about player E’s?

Please, I need your expertise.

Thanks!

Warm regards,
Lemire
Lemire,

  1. If the river was bet and called, then the player has the rights to see each other’s cards. If one of the players mucks their hands, then the other player may request to see the hand.
  2. Both players can see player D’s hands. The same applies to player E’s. When a bet has been called on the river, the remaining players in the hand have the rights to see each others hands.

About Dealing and Pair

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Hi,

I have two questions to ask.

  1. In various holdem shows, it seems that dealer most of the time doesn’t deal every card out. Typically, cards are taken off the top of the deck and then will be disregarded. I’m curious if you know how all cards should be dealt. Can you explain it to me? And about cutting cards, is there any proper etiquette to consider?
  2. Say two players were keeping Q4 and Q6 and on the table was QQ467, do you think pair then will come into play?

Please, I need your help.

Thanks in advance.

Clark
Clark,

  1. Not every card will be dealt. In a 10 handed game, 20 cards will be dealt to players, 3 cards will be burn cards, and there will be 5 community cards. 38 cards total will be dealt. The dealer starts dealing at the small blind, and gives everyone the first card and then makes another rotation. After the preflop betting, a card is burned, and three cards are put face up in the middle. After the flop betting, a card is burned and another card is dealt face up in the middle. After the turn betting, another card is burned, and a final card is dealt face up in the middle. In regards to cutting cards, in a home game it is usually customary for the player to a person’s left to cut the cards, although the dealer may cut the cards.
  2. In this case, the player with Queens full of sixes wins. When the three of a kind in a full house is tied, the pair is what determines the winner.

Replenishing Chips in the Middle of a Hand

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Hi,

Along with some old friends, I played NL holdem cash game. I usually play NL cash games on the internet and so I was quite confident I’d be well. Also, I’m quite familiar with the rules, particularly those at Party Poker.

To start, well, all of us bought in with 25 dollars. We all agreed then that the chips could be filled up many times as we want as long as we don’t go beyond the maximum which was 25 dollars back then.

At some point, a certain player placed a 10 dollar bet on the turn though he only had 5 dollars. There was a possibility of a side pot then as there were players who were willing to call the bet, also considering they were still in. But in the middle of the hand, the player who bet 10 dollars wanted to buy more chips. I believe he can’t buy chips in the middle of a hand and so I tried to tell him. He asked why and I explained to him that there’ll be a good and bad effect if he’d do such. Well, the good effect is that we play side pots, the short stack would have the option of buying more chips if he’d go for the pot or using the side pot if he only had a mediocre hand. The bad effect is that he’ll be giving the short stack an unfair advantage. Am I right?

By the way, at Party Poker, as long as you don’t go beyond the table maximum, you can replenish your chips in between hands, but in the middle of a hand it’s a BIG NO!

Thanks and great site!

Warm regards,
Moore
Moore,

A player may not replenish their chips in the middle of a hand. This changes the natural course of action and can even influence action.