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Not Sure On How They’ve Played the Game

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Monday night, I played in a multi-tourney. I believe I played a really bad hand back then. At the start, well, I was playing just right. Maybe I got a little carried away that’s why the ending was not so great for me. Just an information, the tourney started with 791 total players and I was on 149th place when it ended.

To start off, player A had 54004, player B had 35460, and player C 18562. Player E had 29195, player F 16515, and player G had 9210. Player H had 35430 and player I had 40893. The numbers are all in chips by the way.

At some point, player B was dealt Td Jh and player C folded. Players E, F, G followed and also folded. Player H then raised 1000 to 2000. Player I called 2000. Later, player A folded and player B called for 1000. Flop came and was 7h Th 3c. Player B then placed 1000 as his bet. Player H raised 5999 to 6999 while player I folded. Player B then called. Turn came and was 7h Th 3c Tc.

Eventually, player B placed 12000 as his bet. Player H then called. River came and was 7h Th 3c Tc 4d. With 4000, player B opted to bet. Player H then raised 10331 to 14331 and was actually all-in. Player B then called.

When showdown came, player H had Ts 7s, a full house, Tens full of Sevens while player B had Td Jh, three of a kind, Tens. Later, player H started collecting the winnings.

Any thoughts about how players have played the game?

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks!

Regards,
Nick
Nick,

Player H did a great job of extracting maximum value for his fortunate flop and turn. Player B flopped top pair and was being aggressive. Player H had flopped two pair. He raised, but when player B hit a set on the turn, all the money was going to go in. I think that if the board would not have paired the 10 on the turn, player B would have probably been bet out of the pot on the turn or river by player H. As it turned out, B bet out on the turn and H smooth called. On the river, H’s trap was sprung, and B couldn’t get away.

Was it a Mistake to Fold?

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Hello,

I played NL $5.0 yesterday. Blinds were 10/20 and in early position I was dealt JJ. Later part, I
raised 80 while player to my left side called. Then, player on button re-raised to 140 and so I called. Once again, player to my left called. Flop came and was AA9. I then checked and the player to my left raised 100. Player on button called and I then folded. Turn came and was a J. River followed and was a 6. At such point, player to my left had 77 while player on button had 1010.

Do you think it was a mistake to fold? Please, I need to hear from you.

Thanks!

Regards,
Ian Gorrie
Ian,

I don’t think it was a mistake to fold. You raised and was reraised preflop. Then two aces hit the flop. I would have given one of them credit for A-K, A-Q or A-J, especially the person that just called both raises.

You would have won if you stayed in, but there was also a high chance you would have been busted out of the event. Early in a tournament, that was a wise move.

Flipping Cards Over to Another Player

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Hello,

Me and some friends played holdem the other night. A dispute appeared because of a certain move.

If I could remember it right, after the flop of the river card, a bet was made. Then there was player 2 who paused for some time as he doesn’t know what to do next. Few minutes passed and he then took his cards and put them in the hand of another player to show off his strength. Consequently, he announced that he was apprehensive as he may lose to a higher full house or the like.

At some point, player 2 never had his cards back to him. Well, the cards were actually in front of the player who was not in for the pot anymore. The cards were faced down. Player 3 then intruded and asked what should happen next. I then explained that player 2 folded and so as player 3 therefore player 1 should win the pot.

Player 1 as a reaction then showed his hand to inform everyone he wasn’t bluffing ever since the game started. Player 2 after knowing what player 1 had said that he’d be betting, therefore we we jumped over him without any doubt.

Personally, I believe that in the event player 2 flipped his cards over to another player, he will be disqualified from the upcoming betting rounds as well as from taking home the winnings. Am I right?

Thanks!

Peter Chik
Peter,

You were mistaken. Player 2 showed his card to a player that is not in a hand. While this is an ethical violation, it is not one that will cause his hand to be dead. The hand should have been played out. Player 1 showing his hand does not kill the action either. Player 2 still has the option to bet if he so desires.

Also, the player should not be asking advice of other players. While this does not affect the hand he is in. He may receive a penalty for doing.

A simple way to alleviate this in the future would be to institute a house rule that players may not show their hand to anyone while the hand is still in play.

Players Betting Out of Turn

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Hi,

In my game last night, something came up. After a flop, I was actually the first one to bet. Player to my left checked the bet out of turn while the following player seated just behind him placed a bet. I believe then they had played or bet out of turn. Knowing the situation, I tried to use it to my advantage. However, somebody did told me that I’ll be required to fold later in case I’d still do whatever in my mind. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

O’Neil
O’Neil,

The player that bet due to the check of another should have been told to take his bet back and the action allowed to proceed as normal. You should not have been told to fold.

Revealing Cards

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Hello,

I’m just wondering, can a player reveal his cards in the event he has already went all-in before the end of the hand and is just waiting for the other players left in the side pot to finish betting? Say there were three remaining players, player A, player B, and player C. Player A has $20, player B has $30, and player C has $5. At some point, player C went all in before the flop while player A and C opted to call. Do you think because he was into betting and was just waiting for the betting to finish, he can then flip his cards over?

Thanks!

Regards,
Polk
Polk,

When a player goes all in and two or more players are in the pot, the all-in player must wait until the end of the hand and the side pot, if any, is determined between the other players.

Questions Regarding All In

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Hi,

For the flop, four players were in. The player who was behind in terms of money went all in while three others called.

Now I have two questions:

  1. Does the player who went all in have to show his cards after he’s done betting or else he has to wait until the end of the game when other players were actually done betting?
  2. In the event the player who went all in has the best hand, do you think the additional bets must go back to their bettor/s? If not, then should they go to the player with the second best hand?

Thanks for your time.

Regards,
Feeney
Feeney,

  1. The all-in player must wait until all action is completed between the other players.
  2. The side pot will be determined and awarded between the players that have money in the side pot. The all-in player is not eligible to win any side pots since they do not have any money invested in them.

On Cards Out of Turn

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Hello,

Say flop was dealt and then round of betting followed and so as the 4th street. There were two players left, player 1 and player 2. Player 1 checked while player 2 said loudly he’d check or call and then threw his cards down. Player 2 thought that it was over, however, the river card was not yet dealt.

Now, what do you think of player 2′s hand?

Your help will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Voellinger
Voellinger,

If the player mucked his hand and the hand had not hit the muck, the dealer can remind him that the player checked and the play can continue. If it hit the muck, the hand is dead.

About the Remaining Cards

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Hello,

There’s one thing I notice, in a couple of games, the remaining cards of the player are turned over and revealed by the dealer after the flop while in other games the cards are kept safe till the final betting round on the river is finished. I don’t understand why this is so? Can you please explain to me? I’m really troubled.

Hope to hear from you.

Thanks,
Voellinger
Voellinger,

In the first example, someone is all-in and only has a single caller. Both players expose their cards and the hand is dealt to the river. In the other case, there is more than one player still in the hand besides the all in player. In this case, the all-in does not show until all action is complete between the other two players.