My Hand Never Touched the Muck

Hi,

Last night, I believe I played the dumbest game of my life. At mid part I guess, I called a bet and I was actually all in on the turn with top pair and an outside straight draw. I was also heads up against someone and suddenly he turned over the nuts. If I can remember it right, somebody at the table said that he had folded an ace beforehand. I don’t know why but it was too late for me to realize my cards face down, I believe the dealer then was already turning the final card. River then came and was one of the two remaining Aces in the deck. I then tried to get back my hand from the dealer after realizing what a fool I am. Honestly, my hand was on a face down but it has not touched the muck anyway. However, a certain player believed that I mucked. Later, the house man sided on him and so gave to him the winnings. The dealer who was the one holding the hand silently disagreed as for him the hand never touched the muck.

Any thoughts regarding the incident. Was the house man right for giving the winnings to the other player? Please, I need to hear your opinion on this.

In advance, thank you.

Gallagher
Gallagher,

If you were all in against one player, your hand should have been turned face up. When a player is all in, their hand cannot be mucked by the dealer.

You should have pointed out that you were all in and had not mucked. You should have been allowed to show your hand.

Turn Card Out of Turn

Together with some close colleagues, I play home game of no limit holdem without a house dealer; quite surprising I guess.

Well, just the other day, a problem appeared. At some point, the table was down to four players, by which included me. There were three players then in the present hand. Flop came as expected and was A-4-K. Afterwards, small and big blind checked. A raise on the button came up then. Later on, there was another Ace right before the small and big blind could actually act the dealer.

Before the game ended, we have actually confessed that we would have folded as we had the crap you typically obtain in the blinds therefore we flipped our cards over and pretty sure the bettor had K.

Any comment about what happened?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Breckeridge
Breckeridge,

What happens in this case pull back the turn and burn and turn a new turn. Then you take the old turn card, put it back in the deck, shuffle it, and then burn and turn the river.

About the Remaining Cards

Hello,

There’s one thing I notice, in a couple of games, the remaining cards of the player are turned over and revealed by the dealer after the flop while in other games the cards are kept safe till the final betting round on the river is finished. I don’t understand why this is so? Can you please explain to me? I’m really troubled.

Hope to hear from you.

Thanks,
Voellinger
Voellinger,

In the first example, someone is all-in and only has a single caller. Both players expose their cards and the hand is dealt to the river. In the other case, there is more than one player still in the hand besides the all in player. In this case, the all-in does not show until all action is complete between the other two players.